The message from Toronto City Hall and Queen's Park couldn't be more different when it comes to ways to fund transit expansion.

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford tells anyone who will listen that he doesn't support new taxes. In voting with his executive committee Tuesday to delay a report on city funding tools Ford was unequivocal:

"Guaranteed, hell will freeze over before I support any of these new taxes," Ford said.

Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne is sounding the opposite tone, saying new funding tools are coming in whether cities want them or not.

"The solution is not as simple as rooting out unnecessary costs," she told an audience of 300 business and community leaders at a Civic Action Forum last week.

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